This happened sometime in the past few days. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Retweets. 7h. 3. ”““We haven't decided if we're going shopping there yet,"-Kliavkoff, spewing venomously at the conference that just recently decided a merger with his conference wasn’t financially attractive. 1 — and for No. “@godawgs4 Not really. ”An excellent read that was just sent to me that really summarizes what has transpired in the past year and where we stand now-though if you’ve been following me you already know this tale. See new Tweets“And B12 may just add those 3 and stop and wait to see what happens 5-10 years from now. Cliff notes of meetings: Colorado will rejoin the B12. 6:21 PM · Jul 5, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. Likes. It’s to actively pursue expansion and re-form the expansion committee. We don’t have the endowment they have. Quote Tweets. OKST has been too one sided lately to be a rivalry-hopefully we can change that. Baylor is too. Power5 (or 4) will most likely have an autobid for their champ after playoffs expand. 11. Sign up“60 seconds to PACmidnight. “So this was considered sensitive info for awhile but the silence of these 2 universities is about to be over. Their additions brought stability. As the Pac-12 deals with losing UCLA and USC to the Big Ten and the Big 12 explores a raid on the Pac-12, audience data can be instructive. @MHver3. @MHver3. 6. Log in. Taking a small break from sharing. Some in the PAC are trying to push a couple of the others out in an effort to add 2 “better” markets for tv and recruiting without increasing the mouths to feed. Half of that is what espn wants to buy for the B12 network. ”@MHver3 · May 25. 11:22 PM · Jul 20, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. Air Force and Colorado State have also been in contact with Kliavkoff. I just wish I could get some info from the PAC but that has dried up the past few days. . Take it with a grain of salt-not my usual source. No one has control. Finger pointing, yelling amongst leadership, and very pissed at ESPN for the hit piece on their conference while they are supposed to be negotiating in good faith. (I’m on a mini vacation right now so I haven’t been doing a lot of talking with him the past few days). Most recent figure I’ve heard for Pac12 is just south of $20m per year per school after broadcasting expenses are covered in house. Become an Annual VIP member today and get access. Retweets. “And what’s interesting as well is my B1G source is telling me if ND decides to join B1G then Stanford is the desired partner to come with ND and they will stop there for possibly forever. This meeting is supposed to introduce a “new” interested party to possibly sell their Tier 2 package to for a higher rate than what Amazon is offering. We make more than that currently for all of tier3. ”“@blakeblahut @AveCope No. ”Log in. Quote Tweets. “@RChalk94 Governance would make the final call though. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. All stuff you heard here from me way before it hit the press. They are going to get the money they want without joining a conference. It actually decreases it. one president is telling B12 contacts that there is a feeling GK will ask for an extension on the 4/15 deadline We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. A playoff appearance by OKST or Baylor or KSU would change the calculus quite a bit. "Hearing that UConn is leveraging for an all sports invite from B12…and BY and networks are listening. Possibly 3 east coast teams as well but those 3 are not as far along as the zags are. MHver3 @MHver3. 6. Rumors swirling today that there may be merger talks brewing between Pac12 and Big12 again. “You can’t make this stuff up! (Though I will be accused of it anyway 😂). Hearing that GK is telling some of the PAC presidents that he may not have any new developments in the tv negotiations to present at next weeks meeting. 21. There’s so much information to pour through and so many moving pieces that B12 leadership alone can’t keep up. AZ has and AZSU problem. @MHver3 FWIW my sources are telling me that FOX is NOT actively negotiating with PAC. What I’m hearing on PAC media deal (or lack thereof) from a B12 source based on B12 talks with a PAC school. ”See new Tweets. Conversation“Slow day for info and the weekend will most likely be the same, so here’s a quote I thought I’d share for discussion: "Yeah, I know where the money is " Yormark when asked about tv money during an interview with 365 Sports. 251. 239. #PACinShambles”“ACC hoped that by getting Stanford it would compel ND to join. I have heard that if WA and OR stay that that could possibly keep Stanford and Cal in the fold-I’ve also heard Stanford is very close to going Indy. Sign up“So my new source just told me some of the terms to NDs offer to the ACC: 7 conference games a year with 4 of them home games, 1st choice scheduling, not signing the GOR for football, and something to do with eliminating the exit fee from the charter. 19. Likes. Retweets. ”“@MHver3 If UA and CU aren't stepping up to the plate and contributing their fair $$$ share to the PAC, it's hard to see how they'll suddenly become valuable assets for the Big 12. That’s it. 21 Feb 2023 23:32:48 Feb 24. Likes. Likes. We currently get about $4m for that same content. Boise State is making a lot of noise wanting B12 to reopen their application. “As I type this the Arizona schools are discussing exit strategy and AZ is making their case for autonomy to decide conference affiliation (in case they are the only one that gets an invite). Again they did not have 8 yes votes for either school. “ESPN has been quietly pushing for a B10/SEC Rose Bowl so don’t get too excited yet. And they all already know the current numbers. Likes. Retweets. Shouldn’t be an issue since these are not revenue sports. Interestingly enough there is another school in these discussions with Boise that is interested in joining just Olympic sports…”“@tsaundry13 You’ve convinced me. Clash of Champioms “Bowl” (more on that in next tweet”” “@flugempire @YouTube The numbers are not where the presidents want them. ACC would like to lock up the pacific coast with WA/OR/Cal/Stanford additions as it would be a huge infusion to ACCN. 19. So that lines up with pretty much every other report coming out except for 1. That’s all I’ve got. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Gonzaga is in for basketball. We’ve spoiled schools with Tier3 independence. Tweet about Oregon and Washington 1,843 Views | 20 Replies | Last: 3 mo ago by historian ScottS 2:44p, 7/27/23 Breaking from my source: Oregon and. ” March 7th. The BIG12 would be stupid to go. Learn to create and view Twitter threads to provide additional context or updates. ”Log in. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. 4 PAC schools plus Kliavkoff pushed for the conference to take the ESPN money and the other 6 schools refused. bob trollsby. “And hearing that Washington State, Oregon State, and Cal have reached out to the Mountain West to talk about a landing spot. ”“@DeathrowDerham They want first pick of the top game weekly, best out of conference games not beholden to the other schools tv contract, conference championship game football, and first choice basketball. Likes. (Ralph Freso / Associated Press) Sources say preliminary talks have started on a merger between San Diego State’s current conference and the Pac-12, which is in. Might Washington and Oregon be making the same offer? 🍎 😂 😂 😂. 19 Jul 2023 04:22:28. The other two have been flirting with B12 for years and few they are a better fit with B12 in culture and philosophy. Sign up“Tonight’s Big12 vote isn’t to invite schools. However UConn and Nova can make a case for being in that discussion. “Also not a damn one of those that laughed at me when I said months ago ACC was going to adopt unequal revenue sharing came back and apologized. help. Would help them reclaim partially, a soon to be lost market, and actually aligns very well culturally with PAC. Nothing will happen until GK presents the deal to Pac12 presidents. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. The contact that shared this with my source is in a PAC school AD and their school was not satisfied with any of the update-said that the CEOs specifically told GK not to do a presser. Sign up“Aresco has a petition with the signatures of every G5 school president and G5 conference commissioner to deliver to the FTC complaining of anti-competitive practices and collusion of the selection committee. ”ACC again proposed an aggressive expansion to 20 teams and has been talking with OR/WA/Stanford/and Cal. “@vikingburner Seton Hall is no longer an option. ”“My source just informed me that Arizona, Colorado, Utah, and Arizona State have applied for membership with the B12. $120m from Amazon/$100m espn. ” We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. ”“PAC and ACC leadership have had discussion about an alliance but only if it benefits by getting espn to reopen their tv contract. We currently get about $4m for that same content. Likes. He’s also telling me the big catch with the apple deal would be research grants to member schools-an area apple has been historically lagging behind other tech companies. Sign upSee new Tweets. Hearing Colorado President and AD will be meeting with BY on campus in the near future. I’d be thrilled if Colorado and Arizona came. This helps justify the pro-rata increase for 8 teams. Talks are indeed dead for a merger. Feel like FSU is the most vocal because they are the most edge case in the ACC. @MHver3. Utah athletic director Mark Harlan needs just four words to disarm the Arizona-to-Big 12 narrative. ”“Just heard that Yormark meeting with Knight was basically Knight pleading to Yormark to keep the merger talks going and make it happen. Retweets. @MHver3 17h Amazon only wants the top game every week fb and bb from the PAC12 and is offering $100m a year for 2 years with an option for 2 more years and a review of the terms if the viewership is there. 31 May 2023 13:12:44. ”“@mikednfl Absolutely. AZ too. THE OUTLAW @Cougarsportsfan · 19m. The in-fighting is bad currently with those schools. Redirecting to /MHver3/status/1516166017319411713 Not sure if Apple Inc is well known in Appalachia but spoiler alert it’s not a fruit company 1:52 AM · Jul 26, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. There are some trying to angle SDSU or even Fresno as an alt travel partner for Stanford but the metrics show Cal is actually more desirable to tv partners”Kliavkoff is still trying to leverage more $ from ESPN but they are so far apart (allegedly almost $200m per year) that some at ESPN have told people in the B12 that Kliavkoff seems to be either desperate or cluelessThings aren’t blowing up just yet…BUT…Colorado is having another meeting tomorrow to continue down the road of departing the PAC. ”The apple deal would see apple absorb the production costs of all the games and give them the option to sub lease games to other networks and split additional revenues with the conference. I have nothing to gain-no monetization, no click bait links, no podcast. Temporarily making my account public just to help get my info out for whomever may want to read. Replying to @Tomkatf14. 19 Feb 2023 01:05:52We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. 2. Now it’s been twice verified. ”Pac voted on SDSU and SMU again. @MHver3. ”“I don’t normally get a lot of MWC rumors but I did get a good one this morning that the MWC is fully expecting the PAC to be either dissolved or weakened severely enough that they fully expect ASU, WSU, OSU and maybe even Utah to be partners in the very near future. so mhver az asu utah and colorado do you think they are gonzo heading to join us in the big12 ? 1. They could very well join the four south schools in the B12… until the B1G change their mind. If 4 teams get taken from the ACC by the Power 2, there is a good chance FSU is not one of them. MHver3 on Twitter: "So just to recap the West Coast Spin: PAC has drawn up their GOR mimicking the newest revision to the ACC payout schedule and schools are ready to sign just as soon as they see the money? And Also AZ President had no idea this document was created? Ok. “Boise State making their case for inclusion into the B12. There. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Hence why Texas and OU are staying until 2025. Quote. ”We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. 26 Mar 2023 03:01:53Ah-here’s where the subscriber metrics come into play for Apple TV deal: subscription service add on that would see a majority of the baseball games, half the basketball games, and some football games locked behind a paywall. Also-though much quieter-there will be some zig-Zagging happening this week as well I’m my home state. If it takes their exit for Cal, Stan, Utah,. 21. So not just a. Also learning that Stanford has told B10 they will join for a drastically reduced cut of the tv money. And several mid tier schools that would be shaky getting a new home as well”“I’m also hearing a lot of people describing espns offer to PAC as a lowball offer. AZ has and AZSU problem. Louis Oliverio. While I’m not “back” yet I do have some things to share since speaking with a source today. AZ has not been completely vetted like the other two but since they are current P5 B12 would get Prorata. ”“If Stanford would come they wouldn’t want to be the only CA school but Cal is not a good fit for B12 at all in so many ways. @MHver3 The worst-case scenario for WVU, of course, is the Big 10 standing pat and the Pac 12, still with UW and ORE, picking off several Big 12 teams and leaving the rest of the Big 12 in the wilderness. I’ve got news but can’t leak it yet. Eerily similar to communications the BIgEast put out just before it’s demise right before Pitt/Cuse/WVU/Rutgers/Louisville bolted. Show more replies. The ESPN offer wasn’t $25m per school. Gonna say it again for everyone in the back playing with graphs and charts on Excel: Fox has already approved pro rata for the B12 to add specific teams so they will not get “only $20m” they will get the full share. As well as ESPN about triggering the reopening of their contract in the event of additions. Got a PAC update. ”Log in. So at least more spots open. ”“@BroncoJ415 @MrSamStone3 There’s a lot of things on the table. 3 — is made for TV. 3 — is made for TV. Pitt actually did improve after the move. 13. @MHver3 Jul 27, 2022 Media consultants don’t think we can get revenue positive (from current projections) adding all 4 corners schools unless there is a bidding war. SMU especially due to political and religious connotations…table that fwiw. Mountaineer Steve. Likely not enough votes there to oust him yet but the cracks are showing. 11:57 PM · Apr 17, 2023 @MHver3 Question for conversation: This Century-Has there been any case where after switching from one BCS/P5 league to another that a school has seen better success on the field? Miami, VT, Neb, Mizzou, Colorado, WVU, Louisville, have all fallen off the map since their moves. Replying to @MHver3. Jul 12. March 7th. Stanford/Cal 13. Oils be basketball/Olympic only additions before that happens though. Pac12 can file an injunction if they choose but it would be a slippery slope if they wanted to do that and suspend those teams. And there are ongoing discussions on how that money could be generated through selling the extra inventory. Feel like FSU is the most vocal because they are the most edge case in the ACC. 2. OMG I was wrong. twitter. ”“B1G without a Notre Dame addition has reached the point of diminishing returns. The BYU factor”Interestingly enough Stanford and Cal would not be part of this proposed merger. Replying to. ”“Would a LHN converted into the B12 network, a 20 year Sugar Bowl contract and a guarantee of 8 SEC OOC games per year for 10 years be enough of a carrot for B12 to allow TXOU out early with only the exit fee penalty?”“Oregon and Washington want to wait out the 30 day window on the exclusive period for Fox and espn to renegotiate Pac12 contract before making a decision on B12 application. Quote Tweets. Would the B12 take them?”Sources telling me B12 plans to extend acceptance to Gonzaga following the NCAA tournament. TomKat“One of the two sources that shared this told me that Stanford is pushing for B12 to rebrand if they add the PAC schools. “@DwayneF77 I’ll say it one more time. MHver3. “Let tidbit of the evening: Big12 currently has 20 schools in contact with them regarding membership discussions in various phases of progression. USC and UCLA moved the needle a lot. Feb 21. Grant of Rights required or will come with a clause for reductions assigning each school a percentage of what their worth is to the overall contract. More interesting news is that OR and UW may not be a shoe-in for the B1G. ”Expansion notes thread since some of these are all over the place I thought I’d just consolidate into one place. 5m was for 6 years” @MHver3 I’m hearing that Kliavkoff has plans to visit UNLV, Fresno St, and Boise St over the next few weeks. And it’s a huge sticking point with their BOG. 5% each. “Pac12 fans should redirect their anger at the B10 and USC and UCLA. The Big 10 should just bring in all the schools in the Pac 10 as a Western division. 7:34 PM · Jul. If you start to hear reports of a PAC media offer for $25-28m per school trickle out keep a couple of things in mind: 14 Mar 2023 14:40:40 @MHver3 Don’t underestimate a possible Pac12 invite for Airforce either. and @TheAPBerry. Up to 75% would be streaming. Boise. ESPN has ACC and PAC over a barrel in different ways and isn’t likely to pay more. Sign up“Big rumor! Notre Dame has allegedly made the ACC an offer they can’t accept to join that conference in all sports. But it’s looking like B12 needs to make the next move. Look for a thread soon. I actually don’t want more western schools. 4. ”“The first show to drop was Notre Dame and NBC and the whole “shoulder programming” proposal. I’ve maintained that schools are still waiting on the deal to come in before making a decision. Army/Navy make the most sense from a. Posted on 37 mins, V I P, User Since 8 months ago, User Post Count: 670. @MHver3 But when you factor in possible matchups, multiple time zones, and other data there’s a strong belief from media consultants that the 6 PAC schools. As did VT. This will be my last tweet for a bit. Top to bottom though this new B12 would be the best conference ever assembled. Replying to. FSU is the most attractive maybe. 02 Jun 2023 22:14:16. Retweets. 6. I simply share and have a golden reputation of never giving up sources. You’re unable to view this Tweet because this account owner limits who can view their Tweets. PAC will just expand with lesser brands and pay those schools peanuts to feed ORWA more for the duration of the next deal and then maybe B10 will come calling. ”On the eve of a significant B12 meeting got a few tidbits to offer up. 10:09 PM · Jul 26, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. Oregon was the third choice as a. I’m packing it up. That was a guarantee. Oregon, Washington, Stanford, and one other might be. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. 2. After months of back and forth, with things really heating up since the NCAA tourney started, looks like BY is very close to getting 2 new members a for B12. And they all already know the current numbers. ”Log in. By my count there are 3 "Yes" teams in the ACC and 3 "Maybe" teams. ConversationWe would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. So that lines up with pretty much every other report coming out except for 1. . “RUMOR: Pac12 offer from ESPN: $220 million per year, no expansion. Ugh. Likes. Current B12 expansion landscape: Colorado and UConn have been completely vetted by the conference and networks and B12 will receive pro-rata for both. Thanks for the heads up from those of you who wrote me. MHver3 @MHver3. 2:52 PM · Jul 4, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. Current Pac10 members are looking at about $200-$250m per year on the open market. Transfer ownership of Pac12 networks to espn. He was dealt a horrible“Oregon is as good as already out the door as talks between the Ducks and B10 are intensifying. If Ohio State and Mich or Penn St then Big10 schools would try to bounce for $50mil raise, to new conference. Sign up“@ChiefsInsider There’s a legitimate academic snobbery by the presidents and they are trying their damndest to go down with the ship. Likes. You ready for this? Oregon/Washington 16. Someone mentioned the Saudis last night on here-might be a good option. Likes. @bobtrollsby. 11/15 schools would have to vote to disband, and that's exactly what would get gobbled up by the BIG10, SEC, and Big XII. Jul 6, 2022. That’s it. @MHver3. 22 Feb 2023 21:50:26Reposting this again at the request of my source with alternate phrasing: Colorado board will meet Monday to informally poll where votes would lie for leaving PAC. That’s it. ”“Alright! Got the go ahead to post it. 2. “Let tidbit of the evening: Big12 currently has 20 schools in contact with them regarding membership discussions in various phases of progression. Found. My source (who is talking to an AD at a pac school) says the deal with Espn/Amazon is worth $220m a year. “@ConfCommandos Schwartzwalder wasn’t really a ratings boon after McNabb finished his 10 year career at Cuse though. “Also as part of this deal ESPN would pay Oregon and Washington an additional $15 million per year for the trade off of playing 2 ACC teams per year. I don’t hate the PAC. MHver3 @MHver3. “Espn is telling B12 through back channels that they would like to broker a deal to convert LHN into a Big12 network and secure all of B12 tier 3 rights for 7 years. If you start to hear reports of a PAC media offer for $25-28m per school trickle out keep a couple of things in mind: 14 Mar 2023 14:40:40@MHver3 · 1h. yes they are extending his “deadline”. A few tidbits I did get:”7:34 PM · Jul 20, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. But simply never happens. ”BY possibly has a 3rd media partner on board if Fox is a no go for adding $ for new additions. Still waiting on my main source to give me the go ahead to share. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. 13. But it was requested by the source who shared the info with me. Sign up“I’ve got a pretty big scoop to share that I’ve been sitting on for a few days. @MHver3. B12 has been told by sources from WSU and Oregon State that they will be submitting applications to the B12 pending how successful the first round of merger talks go. “CU and AZ have been given “all the time they need to make a decision” by BY as B12 is in no hurry to add. In person. Previous offer for 24. @MHver3 But when you factor in possible matchups, multiple time zones, and other data there’s a strong belief from media consultants that the 6 PAC schools joining B12 could see their collective value closer to the full $250m yearly that ESPN was willing to pay all 10 in a vacuum @MHver3 Jul 27, 2022 If we receive applications from all 4 of the corners schools (we already have one from SDSU from last year) it’s likely we initially only invite 2 and then wait for tv negotiations to open up before adding whomever the other 2 will be. My source says B10 won’t expand until at least new commissioner has been hired but this option was discussed at a recent B10. MHver3 @MHver3 Hearing from B12 contacts in communication with Pac12 contacts that AZ and Colorado have NOT committed to signing a GOR and will not agree to sign one without a complete deal in front of them that is equitable and on par with B12/ACC. Taking the four will crush the P12. @CFBKnights. GK is currently trying to Frankenstein a mess of a deal with ESPN getting 1 FB game per week at about $5m per game and 3 BB games per week at about $1m per week. Even an Oregon and a Washington together don’t increase the pie enough to bring up the per school payout. Could also mean ND is rethinking. The truth is that’s where the PAC is valued at right now because the bottom half of the remnants are really dragging down the top half in. @MHver3. MHver3 @MHver3. FWIW my sources are telling me that FOX is NOT actively negotiating with PAC. I’ve shared that here last summer. 35 seconds to PACmidnight. BYU has requested an exclusion to allow certain games of theirs to be simulcast on their network. Evening tidbit: as of today’s meeting BY had with networks, any combination of 4 of the following schools (all sports) will be acceptable for ESPN and FOX to pay. Possibly during the NCAA tournament but it could be immediately following. ”My source is confident of a few things: 16 Mar 2023 13:22:493:25 AM · Jul 4, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. But the upside of not paying for production for PACN and the possibility of additional revenues for leased games could see the deal approach the low $20m per team. and. To read this post and more, One Month for Only $1. @xtmountain. I’m being told there will be a Big12 meeting that evening that could potentially have huge ramifications for the Big12 and the college sports landscape in general. We make more than that currently for all of tier3. Colorado feels like they are on an island and being pushed out. "“@vikingburner @RockCat75 @CFBKnights Replace FSU with Miami and you are correct in that second sentence”“The 3 that want to jump to B12 are fed up with PAC leadership. Bradley Berry M. UConn and Nova have proven you can win NCAA titles from the Big East. When information hits I have a duty to share (even if the text comes at 12:15am and I have to work at 6am!). “@MaynardMtnMan Wasn’t Nebraska a true powerhouse ?”posted by CougarrrsLog in. ”“Lots of tidbits and rumors pouring in today. Log in. BC, Wake, Cuse. UConn is still in the air as there could maybe be an all sports invite coming if the right circumstances occur but may be a bball only. Houston and BYU applications are in. U conn not make this stuff up!New development to share: 2 PAC presidents plan to call for a vote of no confidence in GK at next weeks meeting. GOR have teeth even for powerful schools. ”“@SHUWalshgym They’d only need to share about 7-8m per each of the 4 schools. Stanford has not applied to the B12 but has reached out to gauge interest. I’ve also heard that Pac12 may not have enough yes votes from members to add SDSU and SMU. I don’t think anyone is getting in with a negotiated out clause. MHver3🍎 😂 😂 😂. 16 Jul 2023 00:27:09. 2:49 AM · Jul 19, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. ”“Expansion committee presented a lot of info to Bowlsby and Yormark. 2. ” @MHver3 Jul 22 How BIgEast conference’s demise as a power conference is playing a role in Big12’s current thought process regarding expansion, tv contract, and GOR.